31 Seater Projects - Norms Buses - Monthly activity

Norman Julian
: 20th Oct
: The reason I replaced this panel is because it had more holes in it than the Titanic.

Norman Julian
: 18th Oct
: I did a few things today like make this lower panel for the instrument cluster.
: The other is this fixed window panel.
: Because this window frame was falling apart with rust the complicated shape of the frame couldn't be exact when I remade it.
: I remember when I took this apart that it wasn't put together well.
: I spent a bit of time using the hammer and dolly to reshape some of the areas of this aluminium panel to fit.
: Aluminium is very easy to manipulate.
: It now fits exact.
: The old perspex they used never fitted properly so I will have to make a new pattern out of masonite and then can get a new window made.

Norman Julian
: 17th Oct
: This is best described as the drivers console area.
: It has that wind deflector and other things like the dash and the cord bell light amongst other things.
: I have to get some repairs done to this panel as well as welding up any unnecessary holes over the years.

Norm 17th Oct
: The last of the jobs I started during the winter.
: I will start outside on the bus again
: Peter Velthuis
: Haha before it get to hot.

: Norman Julian
: This believe it or not is part of the air conditioning.
: In fact it is the airconditioning.

Norman
: 15 October
: I have moved on from the front windows and will revisit them when I'm in a better mood.
: I made this a few months ago because I couldn't find a decent replacement and the original was rusted badly underneath. I soldered together this front drivers wind diverter (that is what I call it).
: I will finish it tomorrow. I love soldering.

John Lidstone
: your works are so good Norm. Well done.
: Norman Julian
: Thanks for the vote of confidence, John.

Norman
: 15 October
: I cut these off a second series frog.
: I will adjust them to make them look original.

Norman Julian
: 14 October at 16:12
: I'm happy to report that the second attempt worked.
: Using the thinner clear plastic worked.
: I didn't have to use mastic.

Norman Julian
: This job in theory should be the easiest job of all but because I don't have the proper sealing channel it ends up being a challenge.

Norman Julian
: 14 October at 09:03
: Not everything always goes according to plan.

Garth Taylor
: Oh bother, or maybe some other stronger words!!

: James Leonard Garrod
: Bugger, sincerely pissed off on your behalf!

: Norman Julian
: Strangely enough I knew this plan was going south from the word go.
: The rubber was too tight.
: I bought some clear plastic which is a little thinner.
: Will be able to show you all by the end of the day.
: By the way that piece of glass was $90.
: 14 October at 09:12

: Frank Bugby
: O bother !
: Adam Woodwards
: Looks like you've had a cracking time...
: 14 October at 13:36
: Norman Julian
: If only I could get bailey channel to fit this size it would be installed in the time it takes to say "James Leonard Garrod is an idiot". LOL
: 14 October at 14:50

Norman Julian
: 14 October at 10:00
: Another thing I am doing is changing these brackets.
: 3 out of the 4 screws holding the bottom part of the each window frame has stripped.
: The brackets and screws are brass which is a good or bad thing.
: In this case it is bad. I am replacing them with steel, so stripping the thread of something that is 4mm thick is unlikely.
: The only thing is that the holes in the frame are countersunk so drilling holes in the bracket and tapping them is crucial.
: If it isn't accurate the 2 ends of the frames wont come together flush.

Norman Julian
: 9 October at 18:36
: Well folks! I'm baffled.
: I am frustrated because I can't seal these 2 windows.
: Unfortunately I never took notice or even remember what held these pieces of glass in.
: The problem is getting the rubber to sit still while I slide the glass down inside the frame.
: The bottom and top are OK it's the sides.
: If the frame came completely apart there wouldn't be an issue.
: The bottom end of the frame unscrews only.
: Has any of the older followers even done or even seen these frames done?

Brian Hooper
: Scott Wilson will know
: Brian Hooper
: Or ill peak at the one at the farm
: Norman Julian
: Wont help Brian.
: I can look at the Leyland.
: Still no clues
: Norman Julian
: I need to get some "U" channel the same size as the glass.
: This special sealing rubber I got from Sydney reacts with anything liquid.
: I have to put it on dry and then it wont slide.


: Anton Frank
: Can you use spray silicon, as it is used as a release agent for rubber tyres and other things.

: James Leonard Garrod
: Chalk or graphite powder?
: Brian Blunt
: Best person to talk to is Peter Jackson at http://www.oldera.com.au/
: Old~Era Services Restoration supplies and Rust Repair Panels for older cars
: oldera.com.au

: Brian Blunt
: He makes most of the rubber bits that the other companies sell.
: I think you would need "bailey channel" in the frames
: Andrew Blacklock
: think it was a U material
: Norman Julian
: I'm think it was something easy to work with.
: Something semi solid that will still seal.
: Edward Parker
: There is a special glazing thin rubber you buy that you wrap around and stretch as you put window in then knife excess rubber off
: Norman Julian
: Yeah I was thinking that Edward.
: The rubber I was using is a special sealing rubber that when it heats up it seals but as I said it reacts with anything liquid so because of friction it wsn't going on.
: Edward Parker
: The stuff we bought was purchased through custom coaches they got it from melb its about 50mm wide memory and comes in a long roll i csn get a pic of it tomorrow if you want beclawatt used it on there sliding windows on trains and buses to fit aluminum strips onto glass
: Norman Julian
: I have these jacknife door rubbers that go on the side which has never been on a bus It is 1mm thick the size I need. I will experiment with that.
: Edward Parker
: I think its thinner than 1mm for mem
: Edward Parker
: I tried everywhere to get the stuff no one had it only custom
: Alan Routh
: There is a glazing mob out on the old wonderland site, m4 m7 junction. The name escapes me at the minute
: Brian Blunt
: I have spoken to our body repair guy about a couple of similar frames we have..
: What we did was to set the glass into mastic. Make up some small rubber "plugs" to go between the edges of the glass and the frame;
: glue them to the inside of the frame to support the glass vertically and stop it moving laterally..
: Fit the glass into the frame, put a few 1 mm rubber spacers between the faces of the glass and the frame to secure it in place, then use windscreen mastic to seal up the gaps.
: Leave it for a few days to set, then trim up the edges.
: This will leave you with a weatherproof seal and no chance of vibration.

: Norman Julian
: Thanks for enquiring, Brian.
: I have a few ideas and that was one of them.
: Geoff Jones
: a mate of mine just called in , his wife went crazy over some coriander she wanted in her meal last night , so he went to the garden and got some, not enough she said so out he goes again , then she says she doesnt feel like coriander anymore , women, crazy as usual, ...
: he is a windscreen fitter so i told him of your problem & he said if he put his wife in front of the bus the glass would jump straight into place , maybe you should try that ....lol...

Norman Julian
: 12 October at 16:25
: Lord oh lord.
: If only I had a d/decker.
: I would only have to do this once.

Norman Julian
: I have a new idea on how to do this and a lot quicker.

Norman Julian
: 8 October at 16:55
: A rare failure today.
: The rubber I got from Sydney a while back for the 2 main front windows wont do the job I wanted it for.
: The other thing that wont do are these 2 angled brackets.
: They assist to hold the bottom frame to the rest of the window.
: Because they are made of brass they strip very easy when too much pressure is applied to the screw which is what happened here.
: I have had to fix lots of stripped threads from the start of this project I just hate days where you don't make much progress.

Robert Bothwell
: Old vehicles can be character building.

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1952 AEC Regal III [2547]

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