Norms Restoration - 31 Seater Projects -

1952 AEC Regal III [2547]

2017

Building December

Norman Julian 5th Dec
Just a small update on the shed.
I received the approved Development Application today.
It was only 2 weeks ago to the day I paid the application fee.
It was last Tuesday an employee came and inspected the site.
Hopefully the concrete slab can be laid before Christmas.
Garth Taylor
Wow, that seems to be an amazingly fast response from local government!
James Leonard Garrod
Here's my new Garage, not quite big enough for the Limos but it fits 2 lawnmowers with room to spare!
Steve Hardie
Good stuff the new deckers home is on the way
Robert Bothwell
Super quick response - you are fortunate.
James Leonard Garrod
....I'd like to be laid before Christmas as well.....
Robert Bothwell
Which Christmas did you have in mind?
Norman Julian
This is a family group fellows.
Keep it clean. LOL
Stuart Brown
You OBVIOUSLY don't live n my municipality! Last one I put in took over 8 months!
Norman Julian
That's ridiculous Stuart!
James Leonard Garrod
A bottle of Scotch dropped in the Town Clerk's bottom drawer worked for me, next day service on one part and a retrospective amendment on another! (It helped to have somebody literally open the door for me.)
Stuart Brown
We used to have a guy like that.... Not now!
6th Dec
James Leonard Garrod
If you have Google Earth, Zoom in on 12 Bonnefin Place, Castle Hill and check out the additions and the ramp from the house to the street.
Gregor Neil Robertson
Don’t you be falling off ladders now! Biggest incidence of accident are from height working.
I hope erecting it will be done by a team of strong young men.
Norman Julian
I wont be doing it Gregor Neil Robertson.
I'm paying someone to do it.
James Leonard Garrod
Yes you could end up a bumbling Idiot like Molly Meldrum - hang on, you are a bumbling Idiot like Molly Meldrum...just not batting for the other team.
Norman Julian
How do you now I'm not.
Norman Julian 15 Dec
More progress today.
In saying that there were 3 mistakes pointed out by me that didn't fill me with a whole lot of confidence.



Andrew Blacklock
Did council make you pier the slab or your idea?
Norman Julian
That's council and also standard
Andrew Blacklock
How far down?
Norman Julian
Including the slab it's 800mm. The hole is 600mm in dia. The slab is 25mpa at 150mm thick.
Brian Hooper
Piers are cheap insurance.
Do overkill and never have to worry.
Brian Hooper
Pick a spot for future hoit area.
Pier the hell out of it
Norman Julian
You only do what you need to do then some but you can waste money as well.
Brian Hooper
Over engeneer and load the slub up with anything you want.
Pallet racking, hoists.... harder to retrofit after
Norman Julian
It will be strong enough to carry what I want to use it for. Most slabs are only 100mm.
Apparently for the tonnage I have the engineer said you can either have 150mm at standard strength or 125mm at 25mpa.
I chose 25mpa at 150mm, so already have overkill.
Brian Hooper
Nice.
Easier to put dyna bolts in a 150 slab
Norman Julian
The thickness of concrete is important for sure especially for vehicles of this weight but certainly strength is too.
Norman Julian
Before I settled on this shed company I enquired through a Qld company and their sheds don't require a pier at all.
I'm not sure how you can get away with that.
I asked and the answer I got was we never use piers we just bolt it to the concrete.
I told him the gutter height was 5.2 metres and still no piers required.
Brian Hooper
Screw that.
With the creek behind u i would pier everything no matter what!!!
Norman Julian
I have always have been a person that tends to do things a little over the top especially when it doesn't add much more to the cost at that stage.
Brian Hooper
Best way to be!.
Had to fix a spot of rust on the front of the marina chassis....... 5mm angle welded in. Ha@
Stuart Brown
We used those big gopher holes here too..... and a thick slab... with zero cracks 12 years later.....
James Leonard Garrod
....apart from one crackpot....
Stuart Brown
here is a later pic...
Stuart Brown
going to do similar thing with the new one too...
James Leonard Garrod
....bet they Loved you............not
James Leonard Garrod
When I did an extension at Castle Hill I made the footings twice as wide and twice as deep and still got some subsidence over the first few years then it stopped. I wonder what would have happened if I'd stuck to spec???
Andrew Blacklock
450x 1800 (glad I spent the extra $ doing it)
Norman Julian
It depends on your soil as well. Certain soils react and other soils behave themselves.
Greg Scott
( fill me with a hole ) lot of confidence ! Clever and funny norm us bus restorers think alike ! Lol
James Leonard Garrod
A young mate in the Glenhaven area many years ago joined the family business and wanted to get his truck signwritten thus - 'Stanton Brothers Excavations.
We Dig a Good Hole!'
Norman Julian 18th Dec
Tomorrow's the day!




Anton Frank
Good little workout for the Jinma ��
Norman Julian
What sort of workout?
Anton Frank
When it prepared the site for the concrete.
Norman Julian S
he only cuts lawns.
Anton Frank
Looks like you set the slasher height a bit low.. lol.
But seriously how many sq metres there.
Norman Julian
216 sq metres
Charles Shipway
Norman Julian I’m bit concerned about the size of the shed mate have you a strong torch to find the buses in the dark have you steel capped boots to save foot damage knee guards to help if you stumble on a spare wheel or something you put in the way only yesterday you have forgotten about now I have given your welfare a lot of consideration so far don’t you think mate hope this shed is far more serviceable to you than you were expecting Have a merry Christmas
Gregor Neil Robertson
Are you planning holes - sockets - for a two or four poster? Or a pit while you’re at it? Easier done now than later.
Norman Julian
No buddy. I don't need anything like that. I can jack them up and get under them. Pits are unnecessary.
Gregor Neil Robertson You’re a young man - at my age (75) I love the ramps! And agreed - less need for a pit with buses. But modern cars are designed for maintenance with ramps. How thick is your concrete pour and base foundation? (Taking Bus weight into consideration?) In your part of Australia do you experience very strong winds (thinking about wall and roof areas?) My last workshop had a great pit. Now I’ve none and I miss it.
Norman Julian
Concrete is 150mm thick and the strength is 25mpa.
Norman Julian
Things like pits are expensive and money isn't endless you have to draw the line somewhere. I thought about how much room I needed to work on all sides of 3 buses side by side. The shed is 12m wide and each bus is 2.5 metres so there is enough room for me to work on each bus.
Gregor Neil Robertson
Sounds ideal! And I guess heating isn’t an issue there. I’m off out to the workshop and it’s 3 deg C - pretty tough, slows you down. It’s another 3 months before we see 8 or 10 deg. You can get used to it, but some of the fiddly jobs just can’t be progressed.
Norman Julian
Orange is bloody cold in the winter. Sometimes you don't get above 5 deg. during the day.
Gregor Neil Robertson Aha. Well the obvious solution is for you to spend your winters with me in my summer workshop and I’ll join you in your summer workshop during my winters? As long as I can take the dog. Don’t think Mrs will want to come.
Gregor Neil Robertson
There’s a helluva lot of buses awaiting resto in our big bus museum here in Fife, Scotland. It’s probably online. Scottish Bus Museum at Lathalmond. Huge ex-Gov’t Naval hangers. Built in WW2 for the navy docks on River Forth. Absolutely fantastic place - think there are about 5 hangers each big enough for 10 buses. All military spec and shelf storage for big stuff. There are a few posters too - may belong to individual bus owners. A chap could spend a glorious summer there and Open Days too.
Adrian Spencer
There you go Norm a holiday on the other side of the world. Bus world. By the way you into play badminton in the shed. Roll out the buses and comp courts
Norman Julian
Tempting
Norman Julian 18th Dec
Done and dusted.
35cu metres.

Steve Hardie
I like the decker sitting watching Her new Home Being built
Norman Julian
She drooling at the prospect! LOL
Steve Hardie
I'll bet lol
David Oaten
I was thinking the same thing Steve Hardie!
Feral Pigeon
Probably happy to have a roof over her top deck, instead of feeling unloved out in the weather. ��
But what excellent save by Alistair !. ��
Norman Julian
Shame she can't have a fitting 80th!
Feral Pigeon
Norman Julian 85th maybe ?. ��
Norman Julian
Who knows Feral Pigeon!


Norman Julian 19th Dec

Norman Julian
I got them to bevel the edge where the roller doors are.
Norman Julian 19th Dec
Just what we need.
The temperature has dropped and it is raining.
Not heavy just light.
Steve Maher
Good for the curing concrete
Chris Dempsey
It will save you washing 1635 Norm
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