Norms Restoration - 31 Seater Projects -

1952 AEC Regal III [2547]

2018

Building February

Norman Julian 5th Feb
She's going up at last
Phil Belak
That is awesome.
Gregor Neil Robertson
You could switch your passion to building light aircraft - any room for a runway?
The ground conditions look ideal for that!
Jim Sharp
I told you you could use my crane
Norman Julian
Can just imagine the cost just to get it here
Jim Sharp
Norman Julian
Never thought of that! LOL
Peter Livermore
New spot to park my tow trucks
Charles Shipway
Looking good won’t be long now lock up will arrive and Norman you are allowed to go into shock have a coffee break sitting on A revolving chair
So you have the opportunity to take one last look at your new empty shed and please don’t forget your camera to show us how good it looks lm looking forward to seeing these photos
Norman Julian 5th Feb
Not as big as Bunnings but will do!



Andrew Blacklock
looking good mate
Brian King
Be good to see it finished eh Norm
Jim Sharp
It won't be big enough
Norman Julian
Have to get the buses in yet.
David Wilson
you get all of Bunning's tool range as a free bonus.They told me
Norman Julian
We can still put a leanto on either side David Wilson for 2 more deckers. LOL.
David Wilson
Ooooh - sounds interesting
Anthony Christie
Jealous.
Norman Julian
You wouldn't be of the cost
Maxwell Mcroberts
if u build it they will come����

Norman Julian 6th Feb
Todays progress.
I spoke to the builder and he assures me there will be at least 150mm or 6 inches of clearance between the top of the roof of the decker and the roller door when fully open.
Urs Mueller
That's a Shed.!!!!!!
David Griffiths
Measure twice cut once!
Norman Julian
If there are issues the roller door in the middle can be raised.
Plenty of room to go up in the middle
Gregor Neil Robertson
If not, flat tyres or dig channels to enable entry!
Graeme Knappick
Excellent! ��
Norman Julian
Roof goes on tomorrow!
Graeme Knappick
Double excellent!
Norman Julian 7th Feb
Day 4 of the build.
No roof as I said yesterday just finishing off extra perlins, trimmers and internal walls.
I have made a change.
The P.A. door I was going to put between the bus area and the workshop area will be changed to a 2.4 metre roller door. Much cheaper than a double door.
I changed my mind about the single door thinking if I have something wide I can't get it into the workshop area.





Phil Belak
Comitment there.
I guess you’ll be charging for bus rides soon.
Norman Julian
If anyone is wondering the roller doors are 3.4 metres wide.
Norman Julian 8th Feb
Day 5:
Not much to show for a full days work but I can see the roller door slides and brackets are up as well as the workshop wall and roller door brackets.


Robert Bothwell
Make a nice house for someone!
Stuart Gale
green as a govo frog with envy norm ! would love a shed that big to hide all of my toys !!
Norman Julian 9th Feb
Nothing done today.
They are ready to sheet.
It was blowy today so just as well.
I took this photo so as to give you the scale against the bus.
There is about 1.5 metres between each one when parked and about a metre off the side wall.
That is ample room.
Back and front there is about 2 metres either end.
David Wilson
it's not big enough
Norman Julian
Sorry David
Norman Julian
They are closer than that under the carport
Greg Gibson
That's not a shed it's a factory!!
Gregor Neil Robertson
I’m planning on sending you a couple more buses since you’ve got such a Grand place... shipping will be about six weeks which should be about right for timing!
Norman Julian
That's a fine looking machine!
Gregor Neil Robertson
Edinburgh preserves bus.
Seem to remember coachwork by Windover, not sure.
I can find out.
It’s a Daimler with Gardner engine.
As a lad I went to school either by tram (ceased 1956) and on these - interior coachwork is just beautiful.
You can probably find them on the net but if you want more info I can easily get it.
Gregor Neil Robertson
If you can send me an email address I can send more super photos, I can’t get this system to load more than one at a time..
Norman Julian
projectp76@hotmail.com
Gregor Neil Robertson
I’ve sent some photos - hope they are on your email.
Norman Julian
You're the one with a bloody castle.
Pull out a few walls LOL
David Wilson
Leylands only
Norman Julian
What about the AEC?
Gregor Neil Robertson
There are another 8 living within the walls.
I’ve room for ten buses in the gardens (7acres) but they watch my every move.
I’m lucky to be able to keep my wee grey Fergy and taxi in the place, they won’t tolerate the lorry! Bloomin’ snobs!
Norman Julian
Simply love the accent.
Norman Julian
What's the car there in the foreground?
Gregor Neil Robertson
Norman Julian it’s a friend’s taxi under resto
Gregor Neil Robertson
My ‘77 Austin FX4.
They’re rare now but the late ‘90s ‘Fairways’ are still plenty, used as private cars.
Selling at prices from £500 to £5000 gbp.
Mostly auto with 2.7 Nissan engine.
Far more driveable than the early Austin (started production ‘58, ended all FX4s in ‘97.
Just now sales are starting of the EV (electric) from the LEVC (london electric) at nearly £60k.
It doesn’t make sense. ... if you invest that kind of money in a business where competition is less fierce you might succeed but London cabbies now have to compete with unregulated Uber drivers who have no ‘Knowledge’. They just work off SatNav.
A cabbie (who takes 4 years to get his Knowledge Certificate) can rent a 2005 TX cab for £300 per week and he has his fuel costs, maybe £150 per week but with a loan for the EV and reduced fuel costs, he has to make £700 per week before starting to pay himself.
(Plus annual insurance at £5000 and maintenance).
So he has to be in the driver’s seat 10 hours a day.
Six or Seven days.
Madness.
The only objection to the old taxis like mine is emissions.
They’re good for a million miles and more.
Norman Julian
It wasn't so long ago if you wanted to buy a cab you wouldn't have much change from $300k.
It was their retirement.
Now you have these uber drivers who basically pay nothing up front.
Not understanding that at all.
Gregor Neil Robertson
It’s a difficult one this.
The Uber system is market forces at work - undeniable, provides loads of employment especially for immigrants.
Being mostly young and pretty desperate they work hard and learn quickly.
So in a way it’s sensible.
But there are many reports of incompetent driving, and much worse -rapes etc.
Black cab drivers are now very threatened.
Charles Shipway
The shed goes together similar to a Bus body.
don’t you recon
Norman Julian
I guess it does mate. Never looked at it like that
Norman Julian 12th Feb
Day 6:
The sheeting has started.
I'm happy with the size of my workshop.
I have the option of putting a second level.





Carle Gregory
nice dog house Norm
Brian King
it would be good shed to put a water tank on it Norm .
maybe 2 tanks eh with that size
Norman Julian
It will happen Brian.
Norman Julian
Looking at a 30,000 litre
Brian King
will you be able to pipe it back to the house too ?
Norman Julian
That's the plan.
Norman Julian 13th Feb
Day 7:
Just the internal wall to do and then the roof.
Now that the main roller door runners are up, I measured the door stopper which is at the top that the door stops going any further up to down to the bottom to the concrete and it measures 4.550 metres.

Robert Bothwell
Looks substantial with the wall cladding on.
Carle Gregory
is 4.5 mtrs tall enough?
Greg Gibson
Looks like a rural fire station
Norman Julian
The maximum height for any vehicle is 4.400mm Carl.
It says in the cabin 14ft 2 inches which elates to 4.315 mm.
This bus is 50mm shorter than the Post War buses which is 14ft 4 inches or 4.370mm.
The wheels on this bus are 100mm in dia smaller than the ones on the frogs so if anything there is more room to get in. I'm not sure whether this bus has smaller wheels by the era it came out or whether someone put them on and I'm not sure whether the size in the cabin takes that into account.
John Clarke
I seem to remember 13'4'' written in the cabs Newcastle Leylands
Norman Julian
John that may have been the low bridge type.
They did have them early in the peace.
Charles Shipway
Well Norman my father had a saying some of the important things in life don’t always come about quickly BUT when they arrive you appreciate them more looking good
Andrew Blacklock
awesome shed mate
Robert Bothwell
Looks substantial with the wall cladding on.
Carle Gregory
is 4.5 mtrs tall enough?
Greg Gibson
Looks like a rural fire station
Norman Julian
The maximum height for any vehicle is 4.400mm Carl.
It says in the cabin 14ft 2 inches which elates to 4.315 mm.
This bus is 50mm shorter than the Post War buses which is 14ft 4 inches or 4.370mm.
The wheels on this bus are 100mm in dia smaller than the ones on the frogs so if anything there is more room to get in. I'm not sure whether this bus has smaller wheels by the era it came out or whether someone put them on and I'm not sure whether the size in the cabin takes that into account.
David Wilson
was 14'4" - prewar buses like 1635 were 14'2".Lowbridge double deckers were 13'6"
Anton Frank
Looks huge �� what rating is it ?
Norman Julian
Can't easily understand these plans and specs but in the old days a shed wind rating in this area was W33.
Not sure these days.
Norman Julian
It has VR45m/s and Vsit,B 39 m/s.
Do you know what that means old buddy?
Anton Frank
Looking good Norman
Norman Julian
I'm in Region A
Anton Frank
Have you got room for a hoist, handy for old guys like us..
Norman Julian
What type of hoist.
Engine hoist or car lifting hoist?
Anton Frank
Car, two or four poster.
Norman Julian
Bugger off!
No cars allowed in this shed.
Anton Frank
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Norman Julian
Don't you give me the "Frown"!
Anton Frank
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Norman Julian
Bloody wind came up today just as they were about to lay the first roofing sheet.
Anton Frank
Those sheets could power the QE2. ..
Norman Julian
Huh!!!!!!
Anton Frank
As sails Buddy sails .. ��
Norman Julian
OK! Silly me! Hehehe
Peter Livermore
Looking great Norman
Norman Julian
You can park your big mother in this shed Peter!
LOL
Joshua Crook
Looking good Norman
Norman Julian 16th Feb
I haven't reported much progress on the shed mainly because the last 2 days they never showed.
This is not new by the way.
I guess it's a sign of the times.
Anyway, this is Wednesdays efforts, the back section as far as their concerned is finished.
The side access door is up and half the roof is meshed.



Peter Velthuis
Lock up stage will be 2019 sometime.��
Norman Julian
Don't even joke about that
Stuart Brown
You should get them to put aircell insulation under the roof sheets.
Makes a huge difference both hot and cold
Norman Julian
Stuart Brown

Peter Velthuis
Always a step ahead. Lol.
Norman Julian
I originally was going to just use sisal but changed my mind.
I have to keep the buses warm in the winter Peter Velthuis because I don't have blankets big enough.
Mark Ellery
Ever heard of knitting
Norman Julian
Idiot!
Norman Julian 18th Feb
I ordered the water tank today.
Just as well because I have to wait 3 weeks.
Norman Julian 21st Feb
Update on the shed.
Monday they got the guttering up and started the internal wall.
Tuesday they finished the internal wall and got the internal workshop roller door working before the huge storm came that finished their day.
With the storm came bad winds that continued today till around 11.00 am.
So no starting on the roof.
Lets hope something happens tomorrow.




Norman Julian
This roller door is on the opposite wall to the bench which goes out into the bus area.
Brian King
Thanks for the update

Norman Julian
This is the northern wall which will have 2 large windows with a 6 metre long work bench in front of them.

Norman Julian
Just before it got dark I measured where the outside bottom of the roll of the roller door to the floor because the stopper at the top can give you a false reading.
The bottom of the door to the concrete actually measures 4470.
Cutting it fine I think.
There is enough room so I will get him to raise the brackets 30mm.
Anton Frank
Easier than letting air out of your tyres. ��
Norman Julian
Exactly. 4500 is the magic figure.
Any d/decker will go in then.
Don Allitt
Intresting, the side frame runners are opposite way around to the sheds I have done electrical in.
Norman Julian
If you are talking about the horizontal wall girts Don Allitt then they are "Z" not "U" shaped like others may have been.
Don Allitt
Ok thanks a lot closer together than the V/U shape.
Is Z shape for strong winds.
Norman Julian
To be honest I'm not sure.
Don Allitt
Yes, found out wind braceing the panels.
Gregor Neil Robertson
In the light of today’s grim weather here, do you ever get heavy snowfall?
Or gales?
It’s a very large building and would be vulnerable to storm damage here.
Norman Julian
Standards are different everywhere Gregor.
The area here is in the low category.
We do get storms as does everywhere else.
With winds that can be sometimes high so you do have to allow for that.
Don Allitt
I showed the photos Norman put up to a shed builder I do electrical for and he said it looks to be built to the standard
ie high wind area.



Joshua Cox
I am so incredibly jealous Norm :P
I'd love a shed like this but I don't think my landlord would be happy if I built one in the apartment car park
Charles Shipway
Looking good won’t be long now lock up will arrive and Norman you are allowed to go into shock have a coffee break sitting on A revolving chair So you have the opportunity to take one last look at your new empty shed and please don’t forget your camera to show us how good it looks lm looking forward to seeing these photos
Norman Julian
Will do Charles Shipway.
Norman Julian 22nd Feb
Well we have almost half the roof done.
The other 2 roller doors are up and the front roof trim is done.
Starting to look like an almost finished shed.


Norman Julian
This is the roof insulation Stuart Brown

Norman Julian
Each door is 3.4 metres wide.
Each bus is 2430mm wide so just under 500mm each side clearance for driving in and out.
Stuart Brown
Heaps of room ��
Catherine Norman
When finished Norman send to Ingleside we could do with one lol
Norman Julian
Can only house 3 buses so no good for you Catherine Norman.
Scott Wilson
And a "P" or 2 !
Norman Julian
No cars are allowed
Philip Tumber
I'm jealous, I want one ��
Adrian Spencer
A motel for the bus enthusiasts norm, maybe you will turn the back room into a cottage LOL
Norman Julian 28 Feb
My daughter just sent me this.
A bit dark but it looks finished.
Greg Gibson
You will need to get yourself a scissor lift now
John Lidstone
wow!
Chris Dempsey
Should got your daughter to stick 1635 inside for you
Charles Shipway
You little ripper Norman One hurdle crossed you must feel relieved go ahead and ENJOY it finishing those Buses one day
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February 2018
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