Norms Restoration - 31 Seater Projects & Leyland TD 5 Project

1939 Leyland TD5 [1635 DD]

2018

February Mechanical

Norman Julian 3rd Feb
Drivers' cab of 1635.



John Clarke
When did the flat plate with Leyland written on it go on the centre of the steering wheel?
All the Newcastle Leylands that I remember had them.
Graeme Knappick
I'd say from 1946 with the commencement of the OPD1 post-war batch.
John Clarke
Cheers, Graeme Knappick
Norman Julian 18 Feb
Something that I learnt today.
It's always a good day when you add to your collective knowledge.
I learnt that the wheels at the back are both the same.
I don't know why I did but I thought they were different from each other.
The reason I found out is because I wanted to put the inner wheels back on and not worry about the outers.
The bus is only going a short distance to the new shed so didn't want to bother with the extra work, so I was looking at the 4 remaining wheels left after putting the fronts on and couldn't see any differences in them.
I did find out after the event that they are the same.
Just turn one around from the other.
Anyway, this is useless info I suppose to those that know but this is for those that might be interested.
It dawned on me that if you were stuck in the middle of nowhere and had a front wheel blow out there is no reason you couldn't use the outer rear for the front to keep you moving till you could get the punchure seen to.
Getting back to the case at hand, I did make a first up mistake and didn't allow for the bolts you can see in the first picture to sit in the hole of the rim.
You know when you make that mistake because the rim doesn't sit hard back against the drum.
Anyway, she is ready to move.




James Webb
Some older trucks have different wheels front to back, D series ford being one of them.
Philip Tumber
James Webb I drove D series Ford trucks for years and never knew that, but then again I never changed a wheel as the company I worked for had a contractor for that.
James Webb
Philip Tumber Different offset, when we cracked a steer rim we had to get a spacer made up as we could only get a rear rim.
Philip Tumber
James Webb I think the D Series had split rims with tubes as the contractors did puncture repairs or tyre changes on the spot.
James Webb
Yup splitties.
Carle Gregory
some tyre cases are a vastly diferent height so in the transport company when changing a flat tyre we used to try and get the same height tyres for the duals to carry equal weight, all our wheels were 10.00 X 20
Norman Julian
That's what these are.
Carle Gregory
at times the difference between the tyres could be 50-72 mm
Carle Gregory
(2-3in)
James Webb
As you know Greg, you can run the larger tyre on the outside.
Gregor Neil Robertson
Carle Gregory good grief
Maxwell Mcroberts
Do buses have a corrugated ring between the wheels?
Norman Julian
Not sure what you mean
Andrew Blacklock
NO
Maxwell Mcroberts
on some council trucks had a ring or spacer , Andrew just said no thanks
Norman Julian
What is the ring for?
Norman Julian
The dual wheels on the back are hard up against themselves.
No spacers no nothing
Maxwell Mcroberts
It might have been a spacer but it might help alignment with the outside wheel , someone once told me but I cannot remember sorry.
someone maybe Andrew Blacklock could explain
Andrew Blacklock
Maxwell Mcroberts I have sent him a P.M
Brian Blunt
I think spider hubs had the spacers
Philip Tumber
Brian Blunt Having driven some trucks (and hauled trailers) with spider wheels, I can confirm they did.
From long time memory the spacer was there to line up / level up / square up (?) the outer rim with the inner rim so that both ran true.
This was to avoid the quite common ' wobble ' often seen when following a truck with ill-fitted spider wheels.
Also correct alignment and seating of the wheel nut (caps ?), also avoided or lessened the wheel ' wobble '.
Carle Gregory
Maxwell Mcroberts the wiggled or smooth spacer is for spider hubs, disc hubs go back to back and then the fun begins on wether you have left and right hand threads AKA Mercedes Benz or if you have inner and outer nuts AKA like UD
Andrew Blacklock
Norman Julian treat yourself to a wheel nut cracker.
Norman Julian
These things should never have been invented if machines hadn't done up the wheel nuts.
Bloody ridiculous that they are so tight in the first place.
These buses have some right and left hand threads as well so you don't want to be tightening them up even harder.
When I get car tyres changed I tell the guys at the tyre centre I want to tighten the nuts.
Bret J Bistowski
I haven't even begun to look at what's behind my wheels.
All I know is the bus stops when I press the brakes
Philip Tumber
Bret J Bistowski that is good to know when going down a steep hill
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December 2017
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